April 29, 2010

More on the Second Generation

Francois Thibault was noted as being a domestique of a Robert Pare.  This is the Robert Plant who Francois was indentured to.  He came over from France on the Le Cat de Holland.

François Thibault, 18, committed, servant, is identified in Beaupré in 1666 by Robert Pare. The following year, he has not moved. On October 14, 1670, married at St. Anne de Beaupre,  Elisabeth Lefebvre. They have twelve children. In the census of 1681, François Thibault, 34, is living in Berthier-en-Bas. Francois Thibault was baptized at The Fleet, in the church of St. Catherine, Friday, June 28, 1647, with godparents Tibaut Francis and Mary Gautier. His parents, Louis Thibault & Renee Gauthier, were married in this church Thursday, October 29, 1643.

As we mentioned earlier, Robert Paré decided to work at farming. By the beginning of 1667, he had 7 head of cattle in his stable and 20 arpents of cleared land on his farm. He was indeed a success! He had obtained the services of an indentured person, Francois Thibault, originally from Sainte-Catherine de la Flotte on the Ile de Ré. This François worked at least 3 years on Robert’s farm; then he married at Sainte-Anne on 14 October 1670. His descendants are numerous in the region of Montmagny. In the census of 1681 it was recorded that Paré had fourteen animals in the stables, 30 arpents of land under cultivation and 4 guns that were ready and waiting for the moment to shoot wild game and birds.


and from the contract of marriage (Francois)


"Were present in person their son Francois Thibault Louis Thibault of the major town of Fleet parish of St. Catherine in the Isle of Ré and Renee Gauthier's father and mother on one hand and daughter Elizabeth Lefebvre Guillaume Lefebvre and deffunt Barbara Viot residing in Paris parish of St. Gervais.


"The bride said it was brought into the community until the sum of two hundred pounds, half of which come at the said community and the other half will serve her own nature and his family on his side and lined.


"And also the sum of fifty pounds which his Majesty gave her account of her marriage to him will also own nature to her and hers on his side and lineage.


"Done in Quebec in the said house of the said lady Gasnier, one thousand six hundred seventy afternoon, the third day of October.
The marriage of Francois Thibault and Elizabeth Agnes Lefebvre, was recorded October 14, 1670 at the Sainte-Anne-du-Petit-Cap. (3)


"The year of our Lord Jesus Christ on 14 October 1670, after publication of the benches of marriage and permission of Bishop Despétrie other. I received their mutual consent not having found no impediment between Francis and Elizabeth Thibault agnes. And in the presence of several witnesses, and across from the Holy Church, John Caron, and Pierre Robert Pare Piccard inhabitants of Ste-Anne.








F. Fillion missionary priest


Morin priest.


Commemorative Plaque Saint Catherine in the Île de Ré http://homepage.mac.com/benoit.ladouceur/michel/ancetrethibault.html

Relationships

We are related to some famous people.  Celine Dion, Camilla Parker Bowles, Angela Jolie, Madonna, Mario Lemieux, even (ugh) Hilary Clinton.  Ok that's my commentary and maybe not how some of you might feel.   Go here http://www.nosorigines.qc.ca/genealogieSearch.aspx?lng=en and search for your name (last then first) and jot down your file #.  Now go here http://www.nosorigines.qc.ca/genealogyLinker.aspx?lng=en and plug your file # in the first or second box then click on one of the pictures to do some comparisons.  Hey, we're also related to the Prime Minister of Canada and Ellen Degeneres.

April 28, 2010

Distant "Out" Laws



Excerpt from Before the King's Daughters: The Filles à Marier, 1634-1662


By Peter J. Gagné

Banne, Gillette

Gillette Banne was born about 1636 in Argences (arrondissement of Caen, diocese of Bayeux), Normandy, daughter of Marin Banne and Isabelle Boire or Bour.

She came to Canada in or before 1649.


About 1649, Gillette married Marin Chauvin dit Lafortune in Trois-Rivières.


Marin is from Le Mesnil in the parish of Saint-Médard-de-Réno (canton of Tourouvre, arrondissement of Mortagne), Perche.1 On 08 March 1648 in Tourouvre, notary Choiseau drew up an enlistment contract for Marin to go to New France in the service of Noël Juchereau (see Appendix). Pierre Juchereau acted as agent on behalf of his brother, enlisting Marin for three years at the salary of 40 livres per year, with an advance of 10 livres . This low salary may be due to the fact that Marin was an unskilled laborer.


Gillette and Marin had a daughter, Marie, who was baptized 08 September 1650 at Trois-Rivières. She was to be their only child, for Marin Chauvin died at Trois-Rivières some time before 07 June 1651, when Monsieur d.Ailleboust granted Gillette of an arpent in the town site of Trois-Rivières, between Sébastien Dodier on the southwest and the palisade on the northeast, on the condition that she build a house and have it re-enclosed with a good fence.

In 1653, Gillette married Jacques Bertault in Trois-Rivières. Neither spouse could sign the marriage contract drawn up 27 July by notary Ameau. A locksmith, Jacques was born about 1626 in Les Essars (arrondissement of La Roche-sur-Yon, diocese of Luçon), Poitou, the son of merchant Thomas Bertault and Catherine Coulonne.

He and Gillette had six children. Son Jacques was baptized at Trois-Rivières 25

November 1654, followed by Marguerite (21 December 1655) and Suzanne (18

December 1657). Élisabeth-Thérèse was baptized 23 January 1659, followed by Jeanne (29 March 1660) and Nicolas (26 February 1662). Gillette Banne was confirmed 22 May 1664 at Trois-Rivières. Sadly, son Jacques died some time before the 1666 census. Daughter Élisabeth married Julien Latouche on 12 August 1671. While Élisabeth was a mere 12 years old, her husband was 30. Latouche was unsuccessful at farming his land at Trois-Rivières, and Jacques and Gillette often had to send food to the couple or have Élisabeth come eat with them. What is more, Latouche allegedly beat Élisabeth. The beatings and failure at farming were both apparently the result of heavy drinking on the part of Latouche. And so, with the apparent knowledge and complicity of their daughter, Gillette and Jacques poisoned their son-in-law Julien Latouche.

1 Two men named Marin Chauvin that could possibly be the one here were baptized at Saint-Médard. The first was baptized 24 February 1609, the son of Jean Chauvin (mother.s name omitted). The second (and more likely one) was baptized 16 March 1625, the son of Nicolas Chauvin and Catherine Piedgars


Both Gillette Banne and Jacques Bertault were sentenced to death by the criminal court of Québec City for the murder of their son-in-law. They appealed to the Conseil Souverain . Élisabeth was also found guilty of the crime, but did not appeal to the Conseil Souverain . The Council rejected the appeal and sentenced Gillette and Jacques to be hanged. Before the hanging, they were to have a rope attached to their necks and be lead . nu en chemise . with a torch in their hands to the doors of the church, where they were to kneel and beg forgiveness for their crimes to God and the King. They were then to be hanged upon scaffolds set up in the Grande Place in the haute ville . In addition, Jacques was to have his arms and legs broken with a rod, which Gillette and Élisabeth were forced to witness before Gillette.s execution. After his execution, Jacques. body was to be displayed on a wheel at the Cap-aux-Diamants to serve as an example. All three were collectively sentenced to a fine of 60 livres , half to be paid to the Récollets to pray for the repose of the victim.s soul and half to the King, with the remainder of their property to be confiscated by the State. And so Gillette Banne and Jacques Bertault were executed in Québec City at four o.clock in the afternoon on 09 June 1672.

Given her age, the Conseil Souverain took pity on Élisabeth and only sentenced her to make a public apology and to be a witness to the execution of her parents. The Council also decreed that the surplus of the confiscated property (after court costs) would be given to Nicolas and Jacques Bertault, minor children of Gillette and Jacques.





Eleventh Generation

Joseph John Thibault (1930-2009) born 4 Jan 1930 in Dedham, MA died 11 December 2009. Married Helen E. Thibault April 11, 1953. Helen was born in November 1929. They had 6 children
  1. M. Thibault - born 1954
  2. J. Thibault - born 1955
  3. M. Thibault - born 1959
  4. J. Thibault - born 1960
  5. A.. Thibault - born 1962
  6. L. Thibault - born 1967

Tenth Generation

Joseph John Thibault (1897-1948) was born June 1897 in Dedham, MA.  He married Mary Alice O'Neil date unknown.  Mary Alice was born 24 February 1901 and died June 1971.  They had 3 children


Claire F. Thibault  born 15 Apr 1923 died 16 Jun 1997 married Thomas J. Millin

Joseph John Thibault, Jr
Joseph John Thibault - birth 4 January 1930 died 11 December 2009 married Helen  born 1929-(eleventh generation)








Laura Thibault - birth not available still living married Peter D'Amelio

Ninth Generation

Magloire Thibault (1867-1958) was born 20 January 1867 in Bai de Sables Quebec, Canada.  He married Delia Beaulieu in Fall River on October 19 1891.  Delia was born 17 Dec 1872 and died 13 May 1919 of a burst appendix.  Magloire died 8 Jan 1958.  They had 7(?) Children

  1. Delia Grace Thibault born 15 November 1892 died February 5, 1947 married Ora Darling (1910) and William Sullivan (about 1914)
  2. Magloire Thibault born 1 November 1893 died 4 September 1894 
  3. Lyda R Thibault born 1896 died January 20, 1957 married Joseph Conroy
  4. Joseph John Thibault born June 1897 died November 1948 married Mary Alice O'Neil (tenth generation)
  5. Laura Thibault born 1899 died November 1918 ruptured appendix
  6. John Thibault 2 September 1903-29 October 1903 (buried in Dedham Cemetery)
  7. Arlene (Mary-Alice?) born 14 Dec. 1908 died 1958 married John Coolidge (1927)

Eighth Generation

Fabien Thibault (1841-1899) was born on 6 Nov 1841 in St-Simon, Rimouski. He was christened 1 on 21 Nov 1841 in St-Simon, Rimouski. He died on 17 Apr 1899 in Baie-des-Sables. He married  Emilie Gendron daughter of Bénoni Gendron and Adélaïde Morin on 1 Sep 1862 in Baie-des-Sables, Matane Ouest. Emilie died in 1875.They had the following 7 children:

  1. Joseph Thibault was born on 27 Sep 1863 in Baie-des-Sables. He was christened on 28 Sep 1863 in Baie-des-Sables.
  2. Magloire Thibault. Magloire married Victoria Beaulieu daughter of Amabilis Beaulieu and Georgina Beaupré in Oct 1891 in St-Matthew, Fall River, MA. (ninth generation) 
  3. Eliza Thibault. Eliza married 1 Olivier Talon son of Télesphore Talon and Flavie Boulanger on 10 Jan 1892 in St-Matthew, Fall River, MA.
  4. Cyrille Thibault
  5. Elmire Thibault was born on 29 Aug 1872 in Baie-des-Sables. She was christened on 2 Sep 1872 in Baie-des-Sables. She died on 20 Mar 1947 in Montréal. She was buried on 24 Mar 1947 in Repos St-François-d'Assise. Elmire married 1 Adhémar Bellavance Gagné son of Hubert Gagné and Louise Marcoux on 17 Jul 1900 in St-Germain, Rimouski.
  6. Jean-Baptiste Thibault was born on 16 Apr 1874 in Baie-des-Sables. He was christened on 16 Apr 1874 in Baie-des-Sables.
  7. Pauline Thibault

Fabien married  Célina Deschenes daughter of Benoit Deschênes and Louise Lévesque on 8 Jul 1879 in Baie-des-Sables, Matane Ouest. Célina was born in Baie-des-Sables.  They had the following children:
  1. Aurielle Thibault born after 1881 died on 12 Oct 1940 in Montréal. She was buried on 15 Oct 1940 in Repos St-François-d'Assise. Aurélie married Napoléon Laporte son of Jean-Baptiste Laporte and Edwidge Savaria.
  2. Fabien Thibault was born on 5 Jan 1880 in Rimouski, Quebec (1881 Canadian Census). He died on 25 Oct 1931 in St-Germain,Rimouski. He was buried on 28 Oct 1931 in St-Germain,Rimouski. Fabien married  Emilienne Anne-Emilie Lepage daughter of Louis-Jacques Lepage and Georgiana Bouillon on 25 Jan 1910 in St-Germain, Rimouski. Emilienne was born on 24 Aug 1882 in Rimouski.
Fabien married Claire Banville daughter of Louis Banville and Domithilde Lévesque on 5 Aug 1884 in Baie des Sables, Matane-Ouest.