July 19, 2010

Come out come out

Seems we have quite a few visitors but few commenters.  We'd like to hear from you.  What brought you here, do you have some of our ancestors in your tree?  Commenting is easy, click on Comments just under the title and let us know what brought you here.

July 16, 2010

Virtually Visiting Your Loved Ones

You can visit the grave sites of your loved ones at Greenville, SC's Springwood and Richland cemeteries without leaving your home. Greenville has lauched Cemetery Viewer which allows people to find specific graves or deeded plots in the two cemeteries. One can search by name or death date or search plots by name or number.

The project used cemetery plot maps, receipt books, actual burial records and field data collected using GPS equipment. Each marker in the cemeteries was identified with GPS coordinates; the name, dates, and any other legible information on the marker plus a digital photograph.

You can find Cemetery Viewer at
http://www.greenvillesc.gov/Culture/History/cemeteries/CemeteryViewer.aspx

Brookdale Cemetery in Dedham, MA also has a viewer but it doesn't seem as nice; i.e. no pictures.  You can find it at http://gis.dedham-ma.gov/brookdale/.  For Family, note that there are two spellings Thibault and Thibeault.  You'll find Magloire, Delia, Grandpa Joseph and Grandma Mary O'Neil and our baby sister under the Thibeault spelling and a baby boy named John born to Magloire and Delia under the Thibault spelling.

July 7, 2010

Confusion Reigns - Intermarriages

Filling in the blanks of family members you often get totally confused as you remember seeing these names before. You have a right to your confusion as intermarriages reign. To show an example, my great great great Grandmother Emilie Berube wife of Joseph Hudon-Beaulieu has the name Levesque in her tree. They all eventually connect 6 generations up but some connect even earlier adding to the confusion.




Tree 1 - ¹Emilie - ²Charles Felix Berube, jr - ³Charles Felix Berube, Sr - Marie Madeline Levesque - Francois-Robert Levesque - Robert Levesque


Tree 2 - ¹Emilie - ²Marie Charlotte Hudon dit Beaulieu (m. Charles Felix Berube) - ³Marie Francoise Gagnon - Madeleine Hudon-Beaulieu - Genevieve Levesque - Pierre Jochim - Robert Levesque


Tree 3 - ¹Emilie - ²Charles Felix Berube, jr - ³Marie Rosalie Levesque m. Charles Felix Berube, Sr - Joseph Levesque - Pierre Jochim - Robert Levesque



But wait, there is more. Notice in Tree 2 Hudon-Beaulieu? Yep Emilie and her husband are related. Pierre Hudon dit Beaulieu and Marie Gobeil are 4th generation Great Grandparents of both Emilie and Joseph Hudon-Beaulieu plus Emilie is twice related  to Pierre & Marie. Emilie's Grandfather Francois is second cousin once removed from Madeline Hudon-Beaulieu her Grandmother's mother.





Tree A - ¹Joseph Hudon Beaulieu (m. Emily) - ²Joseph Sr., ³Pierre - Joseph - Nicholas - Pierre & Marie Gobeil



Tree B - ¹Emilie Berube (m. Joseph) - ²Marie Charlotte Hudon Beaulieu (m. Charles, Jr) - ³Francois Gregoire - Joseph Basile, Jean Bernard - Pierre & Marie Gobeil




Tree C - ¹Emiliy Berube (m.Joseph) - ²Marie Charlotte Hudon Beaulieu (m. Charles, Jr) - ³Marie Francoise Gagnon (m. Francois Gregoire in Tree B) - Madeline Hudon-Beaulieu - Louis Charles - Pierre & Marie Gobeil

Trees 2 & 3 Genevieve Levesque is sister of Joseph Levesque and therefore Charles Jr. and his wife Marie Charlotte are related as 2nd Cousins once removed I think.






Confused yet? I am.

July 4, 2010

Finding not what your looking for

It has always been maintained that our family had Canadian Indian ancestory, however, a cursory look at the tree shed no light but rumors surround two members; Jean Cote and Anne Martin.



 

Mathieu de/da COSTE' was the first African known to have lived and worked in what is now known as "Canada" (Acadia, Mi'kmaki[2]) in the early 1600s. He may have been Jean Cotes father, but most likely he wasn't.  Below is some speculation.

Jean/Jehan COTE' dit COSTE's date and place of birth and baptism are unknown but believed to be ca 1604. The names of his biological parents are not recorded, which would not be surprising if he were of Mi'kmaq and African heritage, the only interest the European recorders had was in recording their own children (e.g. the first European child born in "Canada" who survived to adulthood is believed to have been born in 1648). 

Jean/Jehan COTE' dit COSTE', who may have been sent to France for an education and to learn the French language and culture, perhaps with a foster family or godparents named LOISEL, arrived ca 1634 with the fleet "Le Saint Jean".

Jean/Jehan COTE' dit COSTE' worked for the second Governor of New France, possibly also as "un grumete" or interpreter, Charles Jacques Huault de Montmagny, who also was the first Onontiio, the head of the Franco-Indigene alliance.




Jean/Jehan COTE' dit COSTE' seems to have had a marriage arranged for him by the Jesuits soon after he arrived in New France. He was married 11 Nov 1635, Anne MARTIN/MATCHONON, and the couple were among the first families established in the colony set up by the Jesuits for their Huron-Wendat converts on the Ile d'Orleans. Being married to a Huron-Wendat woman would have given him the opportunity to learn the language and culture, which he would have needed in his work for the Onontiio. The French appear to have had great difficulty in learning Indigenous languages, which is why there was a great need for skilled interpreters.

Descendants of Anne MARTIN/MATCHONON and Jean/Jehan COTE' dit COSTE' were recorded. Noteworthy is that one of the children (a son b. 1642) was named Mathieu. There also was a child named Jean COTE' dit LEFRISE' (a son b. 25 Feb 1644). Le frise' in French means "frizzy-haired person", perhaps this name was given to the child because he was the only one who had "frizzy" (i.e. African) hair, while the other children of Anne and Jean had straight hair like their Indigenous ancestors. Also, a signature of Jean circulating on several websites has the name as "jeancoste' ", perhaps the name was translated later on to the French from the Portuguese "COSTE' ", the "O" with a circumflex accent denotes a lost "S". All the children of the second generation have their names recorded as "COSTE' " and not "COTE".


Anne Martin is another story. Some believe she is half Metis and half French and was the daughter of Abraham MARTIN dit L'ECOSSAIS (1589-1664) and an unknown Huron-Wendat woman; the sister of MATCHONON "a Savage" (according to the Jesuits), but it is doubtful that she is Abraham's daughter. There is, however, a different Anne Martin daughter of Abraham and Marguerite Langlois both in our tree as parents of Marie Martin dit L'Ecossais who married Jean Cloutier. This is probably where the confusion lies.





So who is Anne Martin born 1603? Who is Jean Cote? Questions still remain but little proof exists that either were of Indian or African decent while all records that do exist show that they were born in France and came to Canada sometime around 1634.   This Anne Martin could in no way be Abraham Martin's daughter as he would have been all of 14 when she was born in 1603.   Jean Cote was not an interpreter as the stories claim, he was a farmer and Anne was not the daughter of Abraham.



 
Children of Jean/Jehan COTE' dit COSTE' and Anne MARTIN

 

 

 
  1. Louis COSTE' b. 25 Oct 1635 m. Kebek 6 Nov 1662 Elizabeth LANGLOIS
  2. Simone COSTE' b. 9 Dec 1637 m. Kebek 16 Nov 1649 Pierre SOUMANDE
  3. Martin COSTE' b. 12 Jul 1638 m. Chateau Richer 25 July 1667 Suzanne PAGE
  4. Mathieu COSTE' b. Kebek 16 Jul 1642 m. 1669 Elizabeth GRAVELLE
  5. Jean COSTE' dit LEFRISE' b. 25 Feb 1644 m. (1) Kebek 11 Nov 1669 Anne COUTURE (2) Kebek 25 Feb 1686 Genevieve VERDON
  6. Noel dit COSTE' b. 4 May 1646 m. Helene GRATON
  7. Marie dit COSTE' b. 12 Jan 1648 d. 25 Jan 1648
  8. Louise dit COSTE' b. 18 Apr 1650

 
 
 

Searching for who Jean Cote and Anne Martin were led to discover that Abraham Martin dit L'Escossais, while not the father of this Anne, was not a nice man. He was accused of raping a 15 year old girl who was later accused and hung for theft.
 


"On 15 Feb 1649, Abraham Martin was imprisoned for bad conduct towards a young girl, this may or may not have discredited him with his fellow-citizens.



About the imprisonment of Martin the Jesuits recorded this: the Journal des Jésuites for 1649. Little is recorded for January outside of the usual list of New-year's gifts; but " on the pith, occurred the first execution by the hand of the hangman, in the case of a Creature of 15 or 16 years, a thief." At the same time, Abraham Martin is imprisoned on a scandalous charge connected with this poor girl; but "his trial is postponed till the arrival of the vessels".
Sometimes you find what you weren't looking for and it's not pleasant.  And still...no Indian blood to be found in our tree.

July 2, 2010

Le Cat Holland

Le Cat Holland sailed in April, 1665 under the command of Master Charles Babin.  Amongst the passengers was our Francois Thibault.  After stops in Dieppe and Gaspe where soldiers from the West Indies , on the Breze , under the command of Monsieur de Tracy boarded Le Cat Holland finally arrived in Quebec on June 18, 1665.  Francois boarded Le Chat on March 31, 1665 in the afternoon.  Like 73 men who boarded committed for 3 years to Gaigneur Pierre , merchant of La Rochelle he did not sign.  This usually meant that he could neither read nor write at the time.  Francois was to be paid 75 pounds a year with a 30 pound advance.  He was 18 year of age.