June 27, 2010

Guillaume Thibault

Among the many THIBAULTS who came from France and Switzerland, at least fifteen took root in America.  Francois son of Louis was one of our ancestors but another was Guillaume Thibault son of Nicolas and Elisabeth Anthiaume.  Guillaume was born about 1618 in Rouen, Seine-Maritime, France.  He was a baker and a tailor. 

Marie-Madeleine FRANÇOIS (or LeFrançois) was from Metz, Lorraine. Her father, Isaac François, was deceased when his daughter arrived in Canada in the summer of 1654. He had been the Captain of a Light Cavalry unit in France. First mention of Marie-Madeleine in Canada is 11-16-1654 at her marriage contract to Guillaume Thibault. She was not able to sign her name. In January 1655, they were married in Québec. She was about 20 and he was about 37.

At Marie-Madeleine François' marriage to Guillaume Thibault, she brought with her a dowry of 400 livres (pounds). She chose for her husband, a baker and a tailor who was the son of bourgeois parents from Rouen, Normandy. He was able to sign his name, therefore had some education.

Guillaume Thibault had first arrived unmarried in Canada in 1638, then he returned to France probably in 1639 where he lived until 1643. In April of that year, he signed a contract for three years at La Rochelle before Notary Teuleron for a pay of 100 livres a year with 60 livres given in advance. According to the contract, he was living in LaRochelle and working worked as a baker. From this, it can be determined that Marie-Madeleine's dowry of 400 livres was an attractive sum of money.

In 1650, Thibault was established in Chateau-Richer in the county of Montmorency. In December of that year, Olivier Letardif conceded land to Guillaume Thibault at Chateau Richer. Olivier Letardif was one of the sponsors of the 1643 voyage to Canada where many recruits had signed on. Letardif (or Tardif) was the manager of the company store for the Company of 100 Associates in Québec.

The 1666 census picked the family up as living in the Québec area. Thibault had in his employ a recruit named Robert Vaillancourt, a 23-year old coppersmith.

The census of 1667 showed that he owned 5 head of cattle and 15 arpents (acres) of land being farmed.

In February 1682, Thibault purchased the property of Simon Guyon who had recently died for the sum of 2000 livres (pounds).

Guillaume Thibault died at Chateau-Richer 8-21-1686 at the age of 64. On the 28th of April 1695, his estate worth 1175 livres were distributed to his children.

Marie-Madeleine François had a second marriage to François Fafard, a widower, in 1696.

How are we decendants of Guillame and Marie-Madeleine?

Guillaume Thibault m. M. Madeleine Lefrancois
  daughter Claire Charlotte Francois Thibault m Felix Aubert
    daughter Marie Charlotte Aubert m. Francois Robert Levesque
       daughter Marie-Madeleine Levesque m. Pierre Berube
         son Charles-Felix Berube m. Marie-Rosalie Levesque
            son Charles-Felix Berube m. Charlotte Hudon
               daughter Emilie Berube m. Joseph Hudon-Beaulieu
                  son Amable Beaulieu m. Georgina Beaupre
                     daughter Delia-Victoria Beaulieu m. Magloire Thibault
                        son Joseph John Thibault m. Mary-Alice O'Neil
                           son Joseph John Thibault

June 20, 2010

Fathers Day

What better way on an ancestory blog to remember Father's Day then to remember all our forefathers.

 My Great grandfather Magloire Thibault

My grandfather Hans John August Gerull

And finally my Dad

Happy Fathers Day

June 12, 2010

Noel Morin - 11th Generation Great Grandfather

Noel Morin was second husband of Helene Desportes whose first husband was Guillame Hebert son of Louis Hebert the First Habitant of New France.  Helene is said to be the first white child born in New France.

Noel Morin was born about 1609 in Brie-Comte-Robert, a region of the Paris Basin. Today, the town is the arrondissement of Melun and department of Seine-et-Marne. Noel was baptized at Saint-Etienne which was built in part in the 13th century. During Noel's time, la Brie had a bishop whose episcopal seat was at Meaux.

We know almost nothing about the life in France of the son of Claude Morin and Jeanne Moreau.
Noel immigrated from La Brie to Canada about 1637. He made his first official appearance in its national history on Tuesday, 27 December 1639 at the home of notary Martial Piraude (secretary of the governor Hault de Montmagny and clerk with the clerk's office and tabellionnage of Quebec) where he signed a marriage contract with Helene Desportes, daughter of Pierre Desportes and Francois Langlois, niece of Abraham Martin.

All the important people of the capital gathered to celebrate the signing of Noel's marriage contract: from Jean Bourdon to Jean Jolliet, including Robert Giffard, Guillaume and Louis Couillard, Father Jean Lesueur and, of course, their great ladies!

Why such a formal ceremony? According to Rene Jette, the bride was none other than the first white child born alive in the Saint Lawrence region, baptized at Notre Dame des Roucources, Quebec on 16 July 1620. Her godmother was Helene Boulle, the wife of Samuel de Champlain who named Helene as a beneficiary in his will of 1635.

Helene followed her parents back to France in 1629 and returned to Canada in 1634. At 14 years of age, she had married Guillaume Hebert, son of the first colonist Louis and his wife Marie Rollet. Widowed in September 1639, her uncle Guillaume Couillard undertook the guardianship of her three children, two who survived: son Joseph and daughter Francois. Three months later she chose to become the wife of Noel Morin.

On Monday, 9 January 1640, the Jesuit Nicolas Adam blessed this union in the presence of witnesses Nicolas Pivert and Robert Giffard, surgeon and seigneur in New France. Noel Morin gave his bride for "good friendship" a dowry of 200 livres guaranteed by:

"a house at Brie-Comte-Robert where hangs a sign with the blue horse in the parish of St-Etienne on rue des fontaines near the gate of the town which the said groom received from the succession of his mother."

Therefore, Noel was not a vagabond. On her part, Helene brought to the newly-formed marriage the ownership of a house located near the church of Notre Dame, with "2 arpents of land near Mont-Carmel and a garden measuring 40 perches belonging to the said house."

The 40 perches in area, which were found north of the storehouse of the One Hundred Associates, in the Upper Town, were officially ceded to the Morin couple on 4 September 1640.

Helene continued to be the wife and mother in her house which measured 24 by 18 feet. Noel also lived there until 1645 while practicing his trade of cartwright.

On 26 April 1645, Governor Montmagny gave Noel Morin 50 arpents of land on the Sainte Genevieve coast for 90 livres. He moved his household there and, in a period of 20 years, he built "three frame dwellings, two of which had a heated room each, cellar and attic, the third serving as a shop and attic above, with a barn and two-and-a-half arpents enclosed with stakes and serving as a yard."

It seems very likely that the move to the Sainte Genevieve coast was carried out before 9 September 1648, the day on which Jean Guyon and Michel Leneuf were to examine the first Morin house and its lot located on the tip of Cap-aux-Diamants. Later, the Fabrique de Quebec would purchase it all for 800 livres.

At the same time, Morin requested the recruiter Noel Belanger to find him a hired man in France. On 4 Jun 1649, at La Rochelle, Pierre Paillereau, a laborer from Villedoux, canton of Marans, was hired to work for Noel Morin. On 6 February 1650, Antoine Rouillard and Thomas Touchet promised to build on Noel Morin's land the framework of a house "which will be thirty feet long and twenty feet wide ... six feet under beams." Noel paid 250 livres for this work, in addition to 20 minots of peas to be given to the two carpenters.

On 15 November 1653, Jean de Lauzon, Governor of New France, ceded to Noel Morin a quarter-league of frontal property by a league deep, beginning an arpent below the La Caille River and going up the Saint Lawrence towards the south side. The Ile-aux-Oies were included in this concession. Thus, Seigneur Morin became the owner of a portion of the seigneury of la Riviere-du-Sud, today part of the town of Montmagny.

This acquisition as a fief entailed rights and duties. The new recipient must render faith and homage to the West Indies Company. Noel named his domain Saint Luc, and thereafter bore the title of Sieur de Saint Luc. Why this evangelist rather than another one? Nobody knows. Did the seigneur and seigneuresse intend to leave Quebec, the town where their growing children could be educated? It seems unlikely. This property which fell from the sky would later be divided among their sons, relatives and son-in-law Guillaume Fornier.

The years covering the period from 1653 to 1668 were marked by progress and expansion for both the children and the parents of this family.

On 17 May 1655, Noel and Helene were granted a pew by the Fabrique of Quebec. It was located on the north side, in the nave, near that of Charles Sevestre. In return, the Fabrique received 2 arpents of land which the Morins owned, today the land on which stands the citadel of Quebec. On the following 4th of July, the terms of the transaction were drawn up. The two arpents were appraised at 180 livres. Of this amount, 100 livres were used to pay the tuition of son Germain, a student at the Seminary.

On 5 June 1658, Louis Selillot and Noel Morin agreed to each build their half of a boundary fence between their property at Saint Genevieve. However, Sedillot delayed carrying out his promise for more than four years.

Guillaume Fornier married Francois Hebert (we decended from Francois and Guillaume through Magloire Thibault), stepdaughter of Noel Morin and daughter of Helene and  Guilliame Hebert, on 20 November 1651. On 12 September 1663, Guillaume was given a receipt for the 1,000 livres tournois that he had provided to the Morins over a 10-year period, and without prejudicing the rights of succession owned by his wife.

During the same era, through the intervention of his father, Nicolas Morin obtained a concession from the Jesuits at Sillery. Nicholas died a few years later at age 23. Then, on 3 August 1664, the Seigneur de Saint-Luc took part in the election of the mayor Claude Charron.

On 23 May 1666, Noel Morin ceded 30 arpents of land to Jean Pannier for the price of 60 livres. The buyer probably returned to France. On 2 August of the same summer, Jean Poitras bought the other half. In the census of 1666, Marie Charlotte Poitiers (widow of Helene's son Joseph Hebert who was killed by the Iroquois in 1661) lived under the roof of her mother-in-law.

Jean Ballie earned his bread as Noel's hired hand. The following year, Jean was still working for Morin. In addition, Zacharie Jolliet, 17 years old, learned the trade of cartwright from his master, Noel Morin. At that time, the farm had 40 arpents under cultivation and 12 head of cattle. On 20 June 1667, an official report concerning the road which went to Sainte Genevieve was drawn up. It was time to improve it.

In 1668, the die was cast. The homestead on the Saint Michel route, obtained from the Jesuit Fathers on 24 February 1663 in the seigneury of Sillery, 2 arpents of frontage by 25, first assigned to his son Nicholas, passed to his brother Jean-Baptiste Sieur de Rochebelle. The farm was worth 450 livres. Nicholas had died leaving a debt of 75 livres. Jean-Baptiste accepted this land for 475 livres, the value of the inheritance. On the same day, 25 February 1668, Noel Morin named Jean-Baptiste his administrator.

In 1664, Noel Morin had been chosen guardian of Charles Amador Martin, son of Abraham. On 16 April 1669, he gave a signed receipt to the Ursulines of Quebec for 240 livres, a portion of the inheritance in favor of his protege, who would be ordained a priest on 14 March 1671.

On 4 May 1670, the part of the land sold to Pannier was resold for 90 livres by Charles Aubert, Sieur de LaChesnaye.

On 4 January 1671, Helene and Noel indicated their intentions: On the day of their death all their furniture and real estate would be divided between their sons Charles and Alphonse on the condition that they support their parents. Furthermore, the sons would give their young sister, Marie Madeleine, 300 livres when she married. Then on the following 12 November, the Sieur de Saint Luc rendered faith and homage to Louis Couillard, Sier de L'Espinay.

Ignace Bonhomme dit Beaupre married Agnes Morin (we decended from Agnes and Ignace via Delia Beaulieu), daughter of Noel and Helene on 12 January 1671

The master cartwright, 64 years old, did not easily resign himself to idleness. On 15 June 1673, he agreed to "make and perfect" 24 canon mountings and to furnish the necessary wood. "I am familiar," he said, "with these cannons in the Upper and Lower Town." Charles Legardeur, first counsellor to the king and commandant of Chateau Saint Louis, promised to pay for this special work by giving Morin 40 livres per mounting ... in other words 960 livres.

On 30 October 1674, Noel Morin and Louis Bosse agreed to settle a suit amicably. Bosse had obtained a homestead at Montmagny. Without knowing the exact cause of the litigation, Bosse gave his land to his Seigneur Morin and even required compensation of 60 livres. We know that between 1672 and 1676, the Fief of Saint-Luc was divided to the benefit of Guillaume Fournier, Jean Proulx, Alphonse Morin, Pierre Jolliet, Jean Baillie, Michel Isabel, David Corbin, Charles Bazire and Jean Rollandeau.

This is the way things were when Helene Desportes died on the Sainte Genevieve coast on Saint Jean's Day, 24 June 1675. Her burial act was not recorded in the registry, but her name appears there more than 20 times as godmother!

Excerpted from http://moringenealogy.blogspot.com/2007/09/noel-morin.html

June 9, 2010

Ninth Generation Cousins - Our Great Great Aunt & Uncles

Cyrille Thibault, son of Fabien (8th Generation), was born October 1870.  He was Magloire Thibault's brother. 

Cyrille married  Marie Thériault daughter of Florian Thériault and Arthémise St-Onge on 11 Feb 1895 in St-François-Xavier, Nashua, NH. 

Cyrille married Catherine Aurore Langlais daughter of René Langlais and Virginie Morin on 30 Jul 1900 in Ste-Angèle-de-Mérici, Matane.

They had the following children:

  1. Jean-Baptiste Thibault was born on 23 Jul 1901 in Baie-des-Sables. He was christened on 24 Jul 1901 in Baie-des-Sables. He died on 9 Feb 1904 in Baie-des-Sables. He was buried on 11 Feb 1904 in Baie-des-Sables.
  2. Joseph Michel Thibault was born on 8 Mar 1903 in Baie-des-Sables. He was christened on 9 Mar 1903 in Baie-des-Sables. He died on 1 Apr 1906 in Baie-des-Sables. He was buried on 2 Apr 1906 in Baie-des-Sables.
  3. Jean-Baptiste Thibault
  4. Adéodat René Thibault
  5. Victorine Thibault
  6. Antoine Albert Thibault was born on 22 Aug 1910 in Baie-des-Sables. He was christened on 23 Aug 1910 in Baie-des-Sables. He died in 1979 in Providence, RI.
  7. Louis-Philippe Thibault
  8. Anne-Marie Thibault
  9. Raphael Sauveur Thibault
  10. Gérard Maurice Thibault 
  11. M.-Ange Laurette Thibault

Pauline Thibault, daughter of Fabien sister of Magloire, date of birth unknown.  Pauline married Moise Labrèche son of Daris Labrèche and Angéline on 9 May 1887 in St-Ann, Fall River, Bristol County, MA.

They had the following children:

  1. M.-Louise Labrèche* (Alice?) was born 1 on 15 Dec 1892 in Ste Anne, FRMA. M.-Louise married Louis-Aimé Caron* son of Joseph Caron and Victoria Thibault on 20 Aug 1920 in St-Mathews, Fall-River, MA. Louis-Aimé was born on 13 Jul 1888 in Baie-des-Sables, Matane. He was christened 2 on 14 Jul 1888 in Baie-des-Sables, Matane. He died after 4 Mar 1955.
* M.Louise & Louise-Aimé were second cousins.  Victoria was the daughter of Fabien's brother Theophile.  Victoria and Pauline were first cousins.

Fabien Thibault,son of Fabien half brother of Magloire, was born on 5 Jan 1883 in New-Bedford, MA. He died on 25 Oct 1931 in St-Germain,Rimouski. He was buried  on 28 Oct 1931 in St-Germain,Rimouski.

Fabien married Emilienne Anne-Emilie Lepage daughter of Louis-Jacques Lepage and Georgiana Bouillon on 25 Jan 1910 in St-Germain, Rimouski. Emilienne was born on 24 Aug 1882 in Rimouski.

They had the following children:  
  1. Georges-Edouard Thibault was born on 3 Mar 1913 in Rimouski. He died on 7 Jun 2006 in Hôpital régional, Rimouski. He was buried on 12 Jun 2006 in Cathédrale St-Germain, Rimouski.
  2. Fernande Thibault was born on 17 Jul 1914 in Rimouski. She died 1 on 5 Jul 1926 in Rimouski.
  3. Gérard Thibault was born in 1917. He died 1 on 16 Jan 1969 in St-Germain, Rimouski.
  4. Gilles Thibault was born on 15 Aug 1919 in Rimouski. He died on 2 Apr 1988 in Sept-Iles.
  5. Jacqueline Thibault was born on 19 Oct 1921 in Rimouski. She died on 22 Nov 1995 in Foyer de Rimouski. She was buried on 27 Nov 1995 in Cathédrale, Rimouski.
  6. Yvonne Thibault


June 6, 2010


Many of our ancestors came from the Normandie region of France.  Today has been 66 years since the D-Day invasion freed France from the German invasion.  Many young men died that day, but I also wonder about the French who died at the hands of the Germans or perhaps died in the bombings meant to save them. 

Bayeux, France

June 3, 2010

Zacharie Cloutier - 11th Generation Grandfather

Zacharie Cloutier (c. December 1589 or 1590 – September 17, 1677) was born in Saint-Jean-Baptiste de Mortagne-au-Perche, France. Cloutier was a French carpenter who emigrated to New France in the first wave of the Percheron Immigration, settled Beauport and started one of the foremost families in Quebec.

Cloutier was one of the nine children of Denis Cloutier and his first wife Renée Brière. The notary Mathurin Roussel of Mortagne called Cloutier the "family peacemaker," describing how Cloutier helped his father and brother solve a dispute involving inheritance. In the parish of his birth, Cloutier wedded Xainte Dupont of Feings (also known as Satine) in July of 1616. She had been born in 1596 to Paul-Michel and Perrine Dupont, and was the widow of Michel Lermusier.

In 1619 Henri II de Montmorency purchased the New France colony from his brother-in-law Henry II of Bourbon. Included amongst the laborers hired to assist Samuel de Champlain in “inhabiting, clearing, cultivating and planting” New France were the names of Zacharie and his father Denis. This group was not a group of settlers, but a group of laborers, who would return to France once their work had been completed. Several years later, however, Cloutier returned to Canada to help establish a new settlement at Beauport.

Cloutier was one of the first Frenchmen recruited by Robert Giffard de Moncel to expand the colony of New France by settling the Beauport area near Quebec City. Cloutier arrived in 1634 (at the age of 44) and either arrived with or was soon followed by his family. This was an important addition to the colony's population which numbered about 100 prior to his arrival. Cloutier worked with fellow emigre Jean Guyon du Buisson to construct Giffard's manor house (the oldest house in Canada) and other colonial buildings.

Cloutier and Guyon resisted for several years paying the fealty and homage owed to Giffard under the Seigneurial system of New France until the Governor of New France explicitly ordered them to do so. This was one of the first disputes against transplanting Old World hierarchy to the New World that would carry through the centuries even past the time of the British conquest.

In 1652 Cloutier received a grant of land from Governor Jean de Lauzon in Château-Richer. The land on which Cloutier lived in Beauport was known as La Clouterie (or La Cloutièrerie). In 1670 Nicolas Dupont de Neuville purchased this land from Cloutier. This action resulted in disagreements between Cloutier himself and his neighbor Jean Guyon and with Giffard, his seigneur. It was not until that time that the Cloutier family relocated to Château-Richer.

Zacharie Cloutier died 17 September 1677 at the age of about 87. His wife died shortly after. The couple is buried together in Château-Richer.

Together Zacharie and Xainte fathered six children, one of which died in infancy. The marriage of his daughter Anne to Robert Drouin is the oldest recorded marriage in Canada. In 1636 when her marriage contract was drawn, Anne was merely ten years of age. The religious sacrament of marriage was not performed until a year later on 12 July 1637. However, according to the contract drawn the year prior, the couple would only be allowed non-conjugal visits for the next two years.


Zacharie Cloutier is the common ancestor of the Cloutiers of North America, some with spelling variations. By 1800, Cloutier had 10,850 French-Canadian descendants, the most of any Quebec colonist, according to marriage records studied by the Historical Demography Research Program of the Université de Montréal.

Cloutier is a common ancestor of:

  • Alanis Morissette  
  • Alexandre Cloutier  
  • Angelina Jolie  
  • Avril Lavigne  
  • Beyoncé Knowles 
  • Celine Dion  
  • Camilla the Duchess of Cornwall  
  • Chelsea Clinton  
  • Dan Cloutier  
  • Diane Tell  
  • the Dionne quintuplets  
  • Gary Cloutier  
  • George R. D. Goulet  
  • Gilles Cloutier  
  • Guy Cloutier  
  • Guylaine Cloutier  
  • Jacques Cloutier  
  • James Haven  
  • Hillary Rodham Clinton  
  • Jack Kerouac  
  • Laura de Jonge  
  • Lynda Lemay  
  • Madonna  
  • Marcheline Bertrand  
  • Réal Cloutier  
  • Robert Goulet  
  • Shania Twain  
  • Solange Knowles  
  • Suzanne Cloutier  
  • T. J. Cloutier  
  • Véronique Cloutier  
  • Wade Morissette
Excerpted from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zacharie_Cloutier