May 18, 2010

Keeping Things in the Family

As you can see my Great Grandfather Malgoire Thibault is related to his wife my Great Grandmother Delia-Victoria Beaulieu.   Magloire's Great Great Grandfather Charles-Francois Thibault is Delia's Great Great Great Grandmother Marie-Claire Thibault's brother.  But wait.  Look closely because Magloire's Great Great Grandmother Marie-Louise-Elizabeth LeClerc is sister to Delia's Great Great Great Grandfather Jean-Baptiste LeClerc.  That's keeping things in the family.

May 12, 2010

9th Generation Great Grandmother


The following information is taken from the bulletin La Source published by the "Association des familles Soucy".


Jeanne, according to the marriage contract with Damien Bérubé, was the daughter of Jacques and of Antoinette (Thoinette) Babilotte. She was born in Paris around 1650, since she gave her age as 29 years at the time of her marriage in 1679. Some words in the marriage contract, which were illegible, finally have been cleaned of stains and reveal that she originated from the Marais du Temple quarter. 

Date of birth

Thus far genealogical research has failed to precisely determine the date of birth of Jeanne as no birth or baptismal date have been found. The information of the census of 1681 complicate our research as Damien was noted to be 30 years old and Jeanne, 34. As we know that Damien was born in 1647, he must have been 34 years old in 1681. Jeanne who was 29 years old in 1679 must have been 30 or 31 years old in 1681 according to the date the census was taken. Alain Soucy has demonstrated that the census took place after the 24th of June 1681(2), probably in July. The date of birth of Jeanne would be between the day of the census and of the 21st of August. Her anniversary can not be before the census as she would be 31 years old instead of 30.

Savonnet, Savonet ou Sauvenier

The origin of the name Sauvenier comes from an annotation written in the margin of the marriage contract in order to summarize the content. This note reads: "m. Damien Bérubé & Jeanne Sauvenier". The calligraphy is more recent than that of the text of the document, this spelling is attributed to a reading error made by it's author.

As for Savonet, it seems that it is related to a regional accent. The name of Jeanne, after 1679, was written Savonet in religious documents but Savonnet in legal documents.

Meaning of Savonnet

The name Savonnet could have come from the word "savon" which, at the time, was a mixture used to dye one's hair red!

King's daughter?

Since her arrival in Canada, in the summer of 1670, coincided with the arrival of a contingent of the King's daughters ("filles du roi"), several authors believe that she was one of them. Because her first marriage contract with Jean Soucy was never found, it is impossible to know if she delivered the dowry to the King. We can only deduct that she was a King's daughter. It is even possible that she might have been married before she emigrated to New-France.

Marriage to Jean Soucy dit La Vigne

The marriage probably took place in the fall of 1670 but no documents relating to this union have ever been found. Jean and Jeanne resided firstly at "Isle-aux-Oies", and then at "L'Isle-aux-Grues" where their neighbour was Pierre Michel.  On these two islands Jeanne gave birth to 4 children:

Anne, born and baptized on the 15th September 1671;

Pierre, b. 13 April 1673 and baptized on the 16th April 1673;

Marie-Anne b. 15 February 1677 and baptized on the 26th of April 1675;

Guillaume, b. 5 April 1677 and baptized on the 1st of May 1677.

Jean Soucy died between the 1st of May 1677, a date when he was present at the baptism of his son Guillaume, and the 1st of August 1679, the month of the second marriage of Jeanne.

Marriage to Damien Berube

On the 22nd of August 1679, Jeanne married Damien Berube, then 32 years old, of Rivière-Ouelle. The certificate of marriage is registered at the parish of Notre-Dame-de-Bonsecours of L'Islet-sur-Mer, but the ceremony probably took place at "L'Isle-aux-Grues". In effect, the witnesses Lord Paul Dupuis, Noël Langlois, Guillaume Lemieux and Jean Pelletier were all islanders.

Jeanne gave 6 children to Damien:

Jeanne-Marguerite, b. 27 October 1680 and baptized on the 15th of December 1680;

Pierre, b. 4 January 1682 and baptized on the 11th of February 1682;(corrected on August 01, 2009)

Ignace, b. in 1683;

Marie-Josephte, b. 28 October 1684 and baptized on the 6th of January 1685;

godfather, Pierre Hudon

Thérèse, b. in 1686

Mathurin, b. posthumous on the 17th of October 1688 and baptized on the 21st of November 1688; godfather, Mathurin Houallet; godmother, Anne Soucie.

On the 7th of March 1688, Jeanne buried her husband and, the following day, two of her daughters, Marie and Thérèse, under circumstances still unknown. Alone she assumed responsibilities for 8 children for the next 4 years.

Marriage to François Miville

Jeanne remarried in 1692 to François Miville and on the 18th of January 1694 she brought into this world an eleventh child, Marie-Françoise. She lost her third husband in 1711.

Death of Jeanne

She died on the 12th of March 1721 at the age of 70. Jeanne and Damien rest in the parish cemetery of Rivière-Ouelle.

May 6, 2010

Nicholas Hebert - Paris France

"New Findings on Louis Hébert and His Family Before His Departure for New France" by Madame M. Jurgens in the "French Canadian and Acadian Genealogical Review, Vol. V, Nos. 1-2," 1975.

The following is the account of Madame Jurgens.

Nicolas was Executor of his mother-in-law's estate. The entire Pajot family eventually turned against Nicolas and his wife, accusing them, before the provost of Paris, of owing them various sums and objects. The matter was settled out of court to avoid the cost of a lawsuit. All parties appeared contented after that. The Saint-Mande house, with the vineyards, became the inheritance of Jacqueline and Nicolas.

Nicolas owned property that he purchased himself, The Coeur Royal and the Trois Piliers and the Mortier d'or, all on the south side of Rue Saint-Honore. Nicolas lived in the Mortier d'or ( the golden Mortar). This was where son, Louis, lived as a a boy. The house was ancient, being already in existence in 1415, inhabited by a wine merchant, Jehan de Paris, and later by the Teste family, owners of part of the quarter. The house was large, with double living quarters, of freestone. On the ground floor the store and back store were located, and on the side a vaulted alley which opened out to the street and ended with the stairs leading to the upper stories and the court; under the stairs, an iron grill protected the descent toward the cellars. The second floor, square, included two large rooms with fireplace, one facing the street and the other the court; a passageway served as entrance, and behind this passageway, a small room used for storage. The third floor, under the gable, was panelled facing the street,but square facing the court and included 5 small rooms, of which 3 had a fireplace. An attic topped it all, and the roof was tile. In the court, there was another small living quarters which, thanks to a passageway in back of the houses of the Trois Piliers and the Aigle royal, had an exit to Rues des Poulies. The living quarters facing Rue Saint-Honore still exist at present, at No. 129, slightly altered, because it was raised by 2 floors and decorated by balconies at each of the 3 facade windows, toward the end of the XVIIIth century. At the present time (1975), two stores occupy the ground floor (one is lodged in the old vaulted alley) and access to the apartment of each floor is obtained by a new stairway built at No. 20 of the Rue du Louvre, at the site which previously served as an exit for the outbuildings of the Mortier d'or.

Financial worries plagued Nicolas, as it did the rest of the bourgeois of Paris, as it was a troubled period, with the financial requirements of the religious wars and the League overwhelming it. The first sign of it was Nicolas' sale of Coeur royal on 27 July 1569. The following year he was forced to mortgage his home, Mortier d'or. After Nicolas' remarriage, besides his own difficulties, he had to resolve those of his new wife and step-children. He had some of his goods seized over an inheritance of his new sister-in-law.

The year 1588 brought the most critical days in Paris for the League. The kingdom was in the throes of war, and Paris was living in an air of insurrection. The representatives of the 16 Paris quarters had formed into a council within the League. King Henry the Third was forced to flee Paris, which was bristling with barricades. The beorgeoisie favored the League, and Nicolas was one of them. Nicolas was close friends with one of the fiercest orators of the League, Jacques de Cueilly, the parish priest of Saint-Germain-l'Auxerrois. Jacques was likely one of the stepsons of the first marriage of Nicolas' wife, Jacqueline. The temporary victory of the League at Paris did not end bad times. In 1589 the King was assassinated. In 1590 the seige of Paris began, with all it's consequences, misery, famine and the end of all commerce.

With the seige of Paris going on in 1589, Nicolas was forced to borrow a larger sum, which he was unable to repay as agreed. He was forced by the courts to repay the loan, and had to sell his share of Mortier d'or. He was unable to pay all he owed, and was sentenced to spend two years in prison, in the Chatelet. He was so poorly cared for in prison that his son-in-law, Maheut, had to pay the rate of 30 ecus per year for food and the jailer 26 ecus. When Nicolas got out of prison he was so ill that doctors were not able to heal him.

What became of Nicolas? His second wife, Marie, had died. He did not try to recapture the habits and memories of the past. He crossed the Seine River and established himself in the new quarter of Saint-Germain-des-Pres. With him was his third wife, Renee Savoreau, of whom nothing is known except that she had many financial interests in the Chartres region, and so likely came from there.

The last record of Nicolas' life was at Chartres, where Nicolas went to carry out a transaction regarding a tennis court, Rue de l'Autriche, and lands located at Saint-Denis de Champfer. His hand was shaky and his signature incomplete. This was his last appearance on 8 January 1600. He was to disappear in the course of the year, without a will or inventory, as he was without property.

The First Habitant

1617: An apothecary by the name of Louis Hébert decides to bring his family and claim a piece of land in the vicinity of Québec city for farming purposes. He thus becomes the first "Habitant" of Canada.

Who is Louis Hebert?  He is our ancestor via 3rd generation Jean-Francois Thibault who was married to Angelique Proulx who was Louis great great granddaughter via her maternal grandmother Marie-Francois Hebert. 

Louis Gaston Hebert was born in 1575 at 129 Rue du Honore, Paris, France (I stayed a 10 min walk down Rue d'Or from the home of my ancestor last year); the son of Nicolas Hebert and Jacqueline Pajot. His family was quite affluent, with ties to the Royal Court of Catherine de’ Medici; where his father was the official druggist and spice merchant to the Queen. In this capacity, he would have had access to the royal palace; and though a bourgeois; would have been respected as a gentleman of the court. But Louis could not depend on a large inheritance and had to make his own way.

Marie Rollet, wife of Louis Hebert, QC’s first settler; d. 1649 at QC In 1617, with her husband and three children she came from Paris to QC where she found starvation, sickness, and threats of Indian attack. A year after their arrival, says SAGARD, the first marriage solemnized in QC with the rites of the church took place, that of their daughter Anne and Etienne Jonquet. Anne died in childbirth the following year, but there is no record of the child.

Marie Rollet aided her husband in caring for the sick and shared his interest in the savages, concerning herself especially with the education of Indian children. In 1627, at the baptism of CHOMINA’S son, Naneogauchit, which the priests were striving to make an impressive occasion, she feasted a crowd of visiting savages out of her big brewing kettle. Her name appears often as godmother at the baptism of converted savages. Two years after the death of Louis Hebert, on 16 May 1629, she married Guillaume Hubou. After seeking Champlain’s advice, she and her family (i.e., her second husband, her 15-year-old son Guillaume, and her daughter and son-in-law Guillaume Couillard) remained in QC during the English occupation and kept alive among the neighboring savages the memory of French friendship. After the return of the French in 1632, her house became the home of Indian girls given to the Jesuits for training. She died in 1649, leaving her husband, her one surviving child, Guillemette Hebert, and a number of grandchildren. She was buried at QC 27 May 1649.

Marie-Francoise Hebert (Angelique Proulx's maternal grandmother) was born on January 27, 1638, in the small Quebec settlement; the daughter of Guillaume Hebert and Helene Desportes. Her paternal grandparents were none other than Louis Ganton Hebert and Marie Rollet, and though Louis only lived for a short time at the French Trading Post, Marie kept the family together through epidemics, war and even British occupation.

Her maternal grandparents were also among the first would-be colonists, but never survived the deportation by the Kirke Brothers. However, Marie’s mother, Helene, did return with her aunt and uncle, Marguerite Langlois and Abraham Martin, when the French post was returned.

On November 20, 1651, Marie-Francoise, then just thirteen; married Guillaume Fournier, a baker brought to the colony; and the couple would have fifteen children. Guillaume was described as a rather disagreeable man, and though his marriage to Marie gave him control of a fair bit of land; it seems that he was always fighting for more. Born in 1619 at Coullemer, Orne, Normandy, France; he was the son of Gilles Fournier and Noelle Gagnon.

Taking after her grandmother, Marie-Francoise was very active in the community and for many years acted as a midwife to the small settlement. The family eventually settled at St. Thomas de La Pointe A La Caille, in Montmagny, Quebec; where Guillaume died on October 25, 1699 and Marie-Francoise on March 16, 1716.

May 1, 2010

Those dit's

You may have noticed in the previous post that Amable Beaulieu's name seem differerent than his father.  Adoption?  No, we have another explanation

.Understanding Dit names

Found primarily in France, New France (French-Canada, Louisiana, etc.), and Scotland, dit names are essentially an alias tacked on to a family name or surname. Dit in French is a form of the word dire, which means "to say," and in the case of dit names is translated loosely as "that is to say," or "called." Therefore, the first name is the family's original surname, passed down to them by an ancestor, while the "dit" name is the name the person/family is actually called or known as. Dit names are used by families, not specific individuals, and are usually passed down to future generations, either in place of the orginal surname, or in addition to it.

Why a dit name? Dit names were often adopted by families to distinguish them from another branch of the same family. Interestingly, many dit names derived from military service, where early French military rules required a nom de guerre, or nickname, for all regular soldiers. The specific dit name may have been chosen for many of the same reasons as the original surname - as a nickname based on trade or physical characteristics, to identify the ancestral place of origin (Andre Jarret de Beauregard, where Beauregard refers to the ancestral home in the French province of Dauphine), etc.

A dit name can be legally used to replace the family's original surname, so you may find an individual listed with a dit name, or under either the original surname or the dit name. Dit names may also be found reversed with the original surname, or as hyphenated surnames.

•Hudon dit Beaulieu

•Beaulieu dit Hudon

•Hudon Beaulieu

•Beaulieu Hudon





When recording a dit name in your family tree software, it is generally standard practice to record it in its most common form - e.g. Hudon dit Beaulieu. A standardized list of dit names with their common variants can be found in Rene Jette's Répertoire des Noms de Famille du Québec" des Origines à 1825 and Msgr Cyprien Tanguay's Dictionnaire genealogique des familles canadiennes (Volume 7). Another extensive source is The dit Name: French Canadian Surnames, Aliases, Adulterations, and Anglicizations by Robert J. Quentin. When the name is not found in one of the above sources, you can use a phone book (Québec City or Montréal) to select the most common form, or just record it in the form most often used by your ancestors.

The Marin Boucher connection

Marin Boucher was born in the beautiful town of Mortagne in the Perché region of Normandy, France. The settlers that came from Perché to New France were generally hard workers and entrepreneurs. Marin Boucher was one of these.

Marin-Galéran Boucher played a prominent role in the establishment of the town of Beauport. He was a mason by trade and was responsible for the building of the town. Marin Boucher is the ancestor of most of the Boucher families and in particular those of the county of Karamouska.

He married twice before coming as a settler to "Nouvelle-France" (Canada) in 1634. His first wife was Julienne Baril. She died in 1627 after giving her husband seven children. In 1629, at the age of 42, Marin married 23 year-old Périnne Malet (Mallet) in Mortagne. Before he left, in 1633, Marin had sold his house in Mortagne to Jean Guion (Guyon) who, too, was to emigrate to New France

After the birth of their second child in 1634, Marin and Périnne came to Kebec (the Indian word for the place at the narrowing of the river). They arrived with all nine of Marin's children on August 9, 1634, and a contingent of other colonists from Perché. Samuel de Champlain himself provided shelter for these new settlers at his house in the fort of Québec. This compound was located on the rocky bank of the Saint Laurence River, just below the high cliffs which make up the palisades of Quebec.

We are connected to Marin through 2 lines via Delia Beaulieu our Great Grandmother. 

The first line (9th Generations)  is through Marin's son Jean-Galleran Boucher down to Delia's father Amable Beaulieu. 

The second line (8 Generations) is through Pierre Boucher through to Delia's mother Georgina Beaupre.